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DNC Protest Watch: Only Some are Quiet by Choice

While Civic Center Park is riddled with heavily-geared police, it's just this handful of bike cops taking a leisurely ride through Cuernavaca Park and Tent State.

Iraq Veterans Against the War

Part of the Eyes Wide Open exhibit, representing those who have died, both military and civilian, in the Iraq War.

Also from Eyes Wide Open, one of many, many sets of boots representing soldiers from Colorado who have lost their lives.

Falsely intimidated and suspected? Who knows. Were they telling me the truth? Who knows. I want to believe them.

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You don't always find what you expect to find, when you go looking in Denver. Some protesters turn out to be calm and collected. Others can't find their voice in a "free speech zone" and even the cops are stifled by the blazing heat.

In sharp contrast to what I've witnessed coming out of the Civic Center Park both personally and on televised coverage--the angry invectives, the arrests, the nearly overwhelming police presence--the folks hanging out at a>Tent State in Cuernavaca Park, on the other side of Denver, are relatively mellow.

In fact, most of the noise coming from Cuernavaca Park is that of speakers, music, and the hum of the nearby highway. At first, I thought I was in the wrong place.

Along a curving sidewalk through the park, folks have set up tents and tables covered with educational information--Safer Choice, Veterans for Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War--seemingly designed to allow those interested to stop and inform themselves, an almost entirely opposite experience than having that information screamed in one's face.

I don't judge, however. I see value in both approaches. In fact, the distinct lack of raging emotion at Cuernavaca Park struck me as far too passive, though that could have just been the timing of when I was there on Tuesday morning.

I spoke with a man named Tom Kelly with Veterans for Peace, who sat in a camp chair, beneath a tent and behind a table covered with informational pamphlets, and asked him what had prompted his group to be present the week of the Democratic Convention.

From his seat, without moving a muscle but that of his jaw, he said, "Well, we'd like to agitate for peace."

I was struck by the incongruity of that statement. It's difficult to agitate from a chair. Of course, the group's literature says, "Veterans Working Together for Peace and Justice Through Non-Violence. Wage Peace!"

I suppose their approach makes more sense than do violent protests against violent wars.

I guess when you gather this many people together with this wide variety of interests and passions and needs and purposes, you're bound to run into incongruities everywhere you turn. I don't know why was surprised.

Before I left Cuernavaca Park, I guzzled two bottles of water, took a tour of a reproduction of a cell at Guantanamo courtesy of Amnesty International (not a big space, and the slit of a window is more of an insult than a view--and the people imprisoned there spend up to 23 hours in that space, some for as long as six years), and tried to find a spot of shade. It is hot in Denver right now, the sun feels as if it has dropped down from the sky to get a closer view of the action.

Just as I wished to do. Missing the claustrophobic moments of hysteria I'd witnessed the day before, I left the park to head towards Union Station, where I'd planned to catch the Mall Ride bus up to Civic Center Park. I could see its sign--so close yet so far away. I hiked down and up a sidewalk along 20th Street then headed west towards 16th, but by that time, I was nearly delirious from the heat. I've never sweated so much in my life. Once at 16th, the restaurants began to call my name, yet most were closed for private parties. And, though still many blocks away from either the Pepsi Center or the Civic Center Park, the police presence had increased. SUVs with six or eight cops clinging to the sides drove up and down 16th. The streets were patrolled on foot, yet I didn't see a protester around.

I hopped off the bus at Larimer, knowing there to be several cafes in the area, and having decided to go check out the action at the Pepsi Center rather than make my way all the way to the park, and by the time I reached Ted's Montana Grill, I was too hot, thirsty, and exhausted to care what I spent on a late lunch (which consisted of a Fat Tire Ale, fourteen glasses of water, a salad with Bacon Ranch dressing--talk about incongruities! Sure! Give me that pile of greens, but sprinkle some bacon on it and slather on the creamy, bacon-filled dressing! and some crabcakes).

After sitting in the cool dark cave of the restaurant for a half hour, I left rejuvenated, and determined to find somebody protesting near the Pepsi Center.

No such luck.

I walked all the way down the length of Larimer Avenue, the so-called "Parade Route," past one of the entrances to the secured area surrounding the Pepsi Center, and down to the corner of 7th and Walnut, where I stopped to guzzle at one of the water fountains attached to a fire hydrant that can be found sprinkled around Denver, which invite people to fill up their water bottles.

Desperate for shade, I plopped down on some metal stairs leading up to some kind of parking structure which seems to house many of the police vehicles (when they're not driving around town). Officers milled around on the street, talking into radios, and to each other, and the number of them increased over the fifteen minutes or so that I sat there, sweating. At first relatively relaxed and easy, they began to seem more alert as the minutes went by. They huddled together in their heavy uniforms and gear--black pants and shirts, guns, helmets hooked to belts, tasers, blue plastic handcuffs looped, handing off the front of their shirts--less intense than the cops I've encountered in other parts of the city, yet intense nonetheless.

After awhile, they walked towards me, needing to use the stairs, and I pulled aside my camera case to make room for them, expecting to be ignored, or at least suspected of wrongdoing, yet their faces softened as they passed me.

"Hiding from the heat?" one asked. I nodded.

Several of them passed by, and the last, a big man, young and broad in the shoulders, gathered into himself his helmet, his dangling nightstick.

"I'm so sorry," he said, softly. "All this stuff..."

"It's okay," I said, pulling my things closer to me and leaning back to make room for him to get by.

See? Incongruities. The day before, I could barely get a cop to look me in the eye when I asked questions about how the protest defense was going, and here I am having cops apologize to me for all the equipment he's forced to carry on his person.

I got up, intending to rehydrate myself again at the water fountain, when I spotted what looked like a long line of cops further down 7th, near the "free speech zone." I walked toward them, snapping pictures, wondering what it was that held their attention yet kept them on the other side of the cement barricades, when around the curve appeared five or six young people, a couple with faces covered by bandannas, loping towards me, easy and slow but turning around to look behind them as they walked--nervous, like thieves who don't want to arouse suspicion.

I continued snapping photos as they came closer, both of them and of the cops beyond them, and the cops who had passed me on those stairs who had since come back down.

"Hey!" one of the kids called out to me. "Who are you shooting for?"

"Newsvine.com," I said. "What's going on down there?"

Another kid answered, "We got kicked out of there!"

"Out of the 'free speech zone?'" I asked, incredulous.

They all began talking at once. They'd been down there, the only people around, and had leaned against the fencing a little, when, they claimed, 30 or so cops surrounded them. "What are you doing?" the cops asked. "Get off that fence!" they ordered.

The kids, feeling intimidated, left the area.

We talked for a while, me videotaping them yet pointing the lens at the ground because none of them wanted to appear on tape (although an officer was filming us from twenty-thirty feet away).

After they left, the cop, the embarrassed one who was burdened by his own equipment and assignment, walked up to me, holding a plastic bottle filled with a clear, pale yellow liquid.

"Excuse me," he began. "Are those friends of yours?"

I shook my head, my eyes glued to that bottle of pale yellow liquid.

"We've been finding a lot of bottles of urine in this area [which have been used to be thrown at people]. I'm just wondering if you know those guys."

"Nope," I responded.

He stood there, looking at the bottle in his hand, which was encased in a latex glove and seemed to consider asking me more, or telling me something, then he looked up, and smiled an wide but uneasy smile.

"Thank you for your help," he said, and turned away.

A strange day indeed, it was. From protester basecamps that were quieter than they should have been and the daunting heat that seemed to crush everyone, to voices of protesters muffled in a "free speech zone" and policemen who seemed just as exasperated and out of place, Denver has been a city flush with incongruities.

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{"commentId":2614571,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}

Hey Viki, nicely done! I like that personal touch you have to a story.

You got a tough job there, covering a protest that isn't there. Quite frankly, I hope it stays quiet in St Paul as well.

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617392,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

It is by no means quiet here. It was just a little quiet today.

I have a feeling things are going to be much more intense in St. Paul. There's a lot more anger towards the Republicans.

My plan for Friday, once I've published my articles and packed to go home, is to create a solid outline of suggestions for you guys for your coverage of the RNC. Hopefully, you'll find it useful. Feel free to send me any questions or specific areas on which you'd like some direction.

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#1.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:46 AM EDT
{"commentId":2618295,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}

Thanks Viki! I appreciate the help. I believe Monday will be the most active day here as that is when the "pres" comes to town. That is also when the anti-war march is planned. That should be the biggest of the planned marches. Whatever happens after that might get interesting. I am looking at it being a very long day. I have a feeling Tuesday might actually have to be a day of rest for me! lol!

I have some idea as to what I want to do after that, but I am open to suggestions as I am sure the others are as well. I am thinking that there may be some spillover protests in Mpls as well so I don't want to get to locked in to a set schedule. I will go where intuition tells me...hopefully there will be a story there!

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#1.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":2618500,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

With all the bugging I do to you, it's pretty much guaranteed I'm going to bug with this. ; )

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#1.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:01 AM EDT
{"commentId":2619666,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

You guys are great! You'll be fine, and I'll give you as many tips as I can.

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#1.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2614621,"authorDomain":"MissDev"}

"Hiding from the heat?" one asked. I nodded.

Several of them passed by, and the last, a big man, young and broad in the shoulders, gathered into himself his helmet, his dangling nightstick.

"I'm so sorry," he said, softly. "All this stuff..."

Flat-out beautiful. It brings the humanity into this police presence in Denver. I, too, have seen differences in the police force here as the week has gone by. Maybe the initial aggression had more to do with nerves and feeling that they needed to "live up to" months of training, and less to do with actual necessity?

Let's hope the peace continues... but not at the detriment of people who feel the need to be heard.

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Reply#2 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617409,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

I think you're spot on with that observation, Dev. The cops seem to have relaxed a little, at least in their attitudes. They're still ridiculously over-prepared, but they're more willing to accept questions and engage in conversation than they were on Monday and Tuesday. Then, they were suspicious. Now, they seem to have figured out who they should be suspicious of.

I do hope the march to Invesco tomorrow is relatively quiet. I'd love to see a lot of groups marching together in solidarity. But I have a feeling there will be some skirmishes. It remains to be seen. And I guess we'll see it together, won't we?

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#2.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:50 AM EDT
{"commentId":2627632,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

I agree -- both that your story was humanizing and well-told, and that the cops have probably calmed down from what they expected would be a tense and dangerous assignment. I would guess that very few multi-thousand person protest marches have ever run through Aurora. But the danger of having so many heavily armed guys in that situation is that just one mistake can lead to tragedy. I'm glad that hasn't happened and it grows less likely each hour.

Tomorrow, though... an open-air stadium, a lot more new spectators and cops, a wider variety of people, and a wider variety of unknowns... Be careful, ladies... but keep writing this great stuff!

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#2.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2615443,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

Wonderful description of your day, Viki. Strange, isn't it? That Veterans for Peace would demonstrate so peacefully. Most true Veterans are for Peace.

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Reply#3 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617425,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Thanks for popping in, Jerry.

It isn't really strange, to be honest, once I take the time to give it some thought. It's perfectly appropriate.

These are men and women who have seen the violence and devastation that war creates. Why would they want to recreate it here? It makes no sense.

What gave me pause was that there was these two older men in the Veterans for Peace booth, and a handful of younger men in the Iraq Veterans Against the War booth, and they hadn't, at least at that point, joined forces.

Together, they could be mighty. Uniting different generations who believe in the same cause is incredibly powerful.

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#3.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
{"commentId":2618306,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

The same was true of WWII, Korea and Vietnam Veterans. They did not mix too well and seldom joined forces. Probably has a lot to do with how each group saw their particular war.

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#3.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:32 AM EDT
{"commentId":2619685,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

That's really interesting, and I'll keep it in the back of my head as a question to ask any vets I run across today.

It'd make for an interesting article. Maybe I'll shoot that idea to Rob Ballew.

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#3.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2615577,"authorDomain":"katrixx"}

Incredible writing. Makes me feel as if I were there ... and yet somehow glad that I'm reading about it from you instead of being there.

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Reply#4 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617436,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Thanks, katrix. I appreciate hearing that. That's what I'm trying to do--provide a means for people who aren't here to feel as if they are.

You might be surprised, though. It's intense, but it is incredibly satisfying and life-affirming at the same time. I grew up with the apathetic generation. To see that the apathy wasn't permanent is amazing.

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#4.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:56 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2615840,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

Nice work Viki. I haven't seen any of the videos yet (maybe I've just missed them). Do you have them up somewhere?

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Reply#5 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617440,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Still working on the videos, rottlady. Four very technologically-forward people (well, two, at least) and we can't seem to get ourselves the right cord for the application.

I'll be sure to provide links as soon as they're available.

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  • 5 votes
#5.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:57 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2615927,"authorDomain":"marilynl"}

Thanks for your reporting, Viki. I'm enjoying your articles immensely.

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Reply#6 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617446,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Thanks, Marilyn! Thanks for reading.

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#6.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2616143,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

Viki, GREAT job. I can only hope to do so well.

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Reply#7 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
{"commentId":2617448,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

You will. And you know I'm here to help if you need me.

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#7.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2616647,"authorDomain":"fredegrar"}

That's not exactly a short little stroll you took there! I admire your dedication, even if there's not much going on (besides the almost-typical Denver surrealism). I second everyone here who's commented on your great writing.

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Reply#8 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:24 AM EDT
{"commentId":2617455,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Today was the first quiet day. I think my timing was off. Plus, I'm approaching exhaustion.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read.

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#8.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:59 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2617247,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

Viki? Was that a bike path the cops were riding on or were they illegally operating a wheeled vehicle on a pedestrian pathway? (bicycles are covered in the vehicle code and should not be operated on pedestrian spaces).

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Reply#9 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:13 AM EDT
{"commentId":2617463,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Denver is weird with bikes, Dr. Know. They're like legs. Everybody is riding a bike, and there are pedi-cabs everywhere. The first day, Calvin and I took a pedi-cab around, and the guy squirreled through traffic and up onto sidewalks.

But these guys were on a bike path. They wind throughout Cuernavaca Park.

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#9.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:02 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2617980,"authorDomain":"mock"}

Really cool reports, Viki. Your photo captions are great, too. That last one of the 'gang' is ever so vaguely unsettling.

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Reply#10 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:20 AM EDT
{"commentId":2619703,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Yeah, I don't know why they'd be so surprised that the cops would be suspicious of them.

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#10.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2620445,"authorDomain":"lele"}

Viki - I'm really enjoying your protest coverage. This is a great piece and I'm so glad you could share it with us. What a strange story, though. Do any of the people going inside the Pepsi center see the protesters or know what they are protesting? Will anyone besides Newsvine readers get to hear their ideas?

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  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":2620816,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

Did anything come of the "Recreate '68"?

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Reply#12 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":2624092,"authorDomain":"newbroom"}

Really great stuff!.....man, sounds like you're lucky and that officer believed you about not knowing the young ne'er do well....you probably just missed getting doused with the contents of that bottle...or maybe told to properly dispose of it.

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Reply#13 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":2624194,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

The title of your article reminds me of what happened in China during the Olympics. The government set up areas for protesters and told them they only had to apply for a permit and keep their protest confined to those areas. When the people followed those rules they were arrested, convicted and sentenced to "rehabilitation by labor". This happened to a couple of 70 year old women.

I think the cops here are using the same philosophy that they use for stings on criminals. They tell them they won a prize then arrest them when they appear to claim it. Now they set areas for protests then harrass those that try to exercise their rights.

I heard the cop telling the reporter that the hotel "owned the sidewalk" in front of the hotel. On one hand I was pleased to see a reporter not being given free reign but I was more upset that any cop would lie about the right to access to a public area. The sidewalk was installed due to requirements set by the city and is part of the public easement.

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Reply#14 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
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